OOC Chat - End Game

[Zanebry Varliss]

Still considering what to give Project: Evolution people... Maybe medals xD

Medals are fine

Medal and credits and/or fat loot is also good

*looks at medal*

*tosses It in the desk drawer alongside several others*

[Remmington Thalalas]

Decorations are not for everyone I guess.

Medals are just a good way to reward people without giving them credits, land, or other valuable stuff.

[Vec Gunnar]

Sorry I haven't been too active today. I'll get to the Q&A tomorrow...-ish.

[Arsele Girard]

*pokes day 11 threads and Q&As and such with a foot*

[Zanebry Varliss]

Have i missed something?

My your posts tab seems to be misbehaving.

[Jo'ren Rath]

If you haven't voted on the Dark Councillor thread yet can I interest you in Hurn? A choice that doesn't unleash Zash any further seems better for the Galaxy in general

[Zanebry Varliss]

Already voted, sorry jo.

[Jo'ren Rath]

NP Z, looks like a few haven't yet based on the numbers in the Jedi poll.

[Shaisha Vreysk]

*voted for Thanny to live*

It was a very hard choice!

[Kristal Serasai]

I voted for Thanatos to die.

[Yslane Tssilla]

NP Z, looks like a few haven't yet based on the numbers in the Jedi poll.

I make it a point to not vote in polls in settings I won't be returning to....

It feels unfair to muck with something other people are invested in.

[Shaisha Vreysk]

I voted for Thanatos to die.

KRIS?!

[Sylvain Torsin]

Kris and I are of the same ilk.

You've been voted off the island this time sis.

[Zanebry Varliss]

NP Z, looks like a few haven't yet based on the numbers in the Jedi poll.

I make it a point to not vote in polls in settings I won't be returning to....

It feels unfair to muck with something other people are invested in.

Sadness. *offers Yslane a hug*

[Shaisha Vreysk]

Kris and I are of the same ilk.

You've been voted off the island this time sis.

Valkorion was right...

I don'tknow you anymore!!

[Cole Ormont]

I haven't voted yet, I'll take another look now.

[Yslane Tssilla]

Actually one thing I have been wondering... from a crunch perspective the system wasn't quite they wonkiness I expected.

I still feel mechanically Yslane isn't very well built, considering the crazy dice pools some of the more experienced people made. I am just curious what exactly people were doing. Skills, specs, traits?

[Durasay Mixo]

Actually one thing I have been wondering... from a crunch perspective the system wasn't quite they wonkiness I expected.

I still feel mechanically Yslane isn't very well built, considering the crazy dice pools some of the more experienced people made. I am just curious what exactly people were doing. Skills, specs, traits?

There are many schools of thought to building effective characters in FFG Star Wars.

The one I subscribe to comes specifically from the tabletop group mindset. Each PC should have something they excel at, a back up, and then allow the rest of the group to cover things.

I designed Durasay around this, because Craw and Nudimsu asked me to play a face for their group. So I put a Four into Presence, then upgraded my agility to 3 to have a decent ranged attack, and back up piloting, and the cunning to 3, just in case I actually needed to lie.

The general consensus on the internet/FFG Forums/Reddit is to spend your initial character XP on your Attributes, as that is the only time you can directly raise it with XP. Skills/Talents/Force powers are relatively inexpensive compared to attributes, so it's easy to justify purchasing those during game play, especially since higher attribute rolls tend to be okay for most things.

[Shaisha Vreysk]

+1 to what Durasay said.

It's hard to find a good crunch when you're new to the system (I was completely new to it last game too), but from what I've seen and in my own experience, it's best to figure out early on which Attribute is going to be the most important to you and raise to *at least* 4 in Character Creation.

Similarly to Durasay, Shaisha was made to work with two others; Sylvain and Kristal. Kristal is the tough tanky warrior, while Sylvain is the face-role, so I figured I wanted someone sneaky and flexible. Cunning 4 and Shien Expert I felt provided me with being relatively flexible in what I was capable of: since Shien uses Cunning for Lightsaber-checks (so I can be fighty), get things like Stealth and Skullduggery as Career skills (so I could be rogue-y), and the top-line of the Shien Expert tree have cheap utility-talents (removing Setbacks on various Skill checks).

[Yslane Tssilla]

Thanks, new systems are always confusing.

[Zanebry Varliss]

I know I was encouraged to have a 4 at character creation and it worked out fairly well. I probably spent a little too much on skills at character creation, which had good and bad sides.

I suppose my real mess up was picking a pretty lackluster tree. It worked more or less for what Z was doing, but if I could go back i would probably change it up. That's learning and all for you though.

[Cole Ormont]

The talent tree system drives me up the damn wall in this system. Overall, I find the whole system to be very limiting.

I'm currently on my third concept of where I'd like to take Cole.
> First, I was planning on cross-spec'ing to Slicer, but I really don't like the layout of the talent tree, and would have to end up spending way too much on talents I didn't want. Plus, it would have been too expensive, xp-wise, to start picking up Mechanics on the side, despite it being another Int-based skill.
> Second, I decided to delve deeper into the Doctor tree, and pick up some Politico. This had the advantage of being from the same career but, while I see Cole as authoritative in certain circumstances, it does not mesh with his character concept to overlap with Captain Alderaan so much.
> Currently, I'm planning on really doubling down on Cole's ambition to be the best damn surgeon in the damn galaxy. I still picked up a point in Leadership, but at this stage I'm focusing on grabbing as many ranks of Surgeon as possible and upping his Int to 5, rather than bring his presence to 4.

Aaaaaaaand, I went off on a tangent. Basically, I don't like the mechanics. But if you want to have an in-depth discussion about building characters within the limitations of the system, PM me for my email address and I'll talk your ears off.

[Niall Organa]

Actually one thing I have been wondering... from a crunch perspective the system wasn't quite they wonkiness I expected.

I still feel mechanically Yslane isn't very well built, considering the crazy dice pools some of the more experienced people made. I am just curious what exactly people were doing. Skills, specs, traits?

If it helps, I thought that Yslane was pretty darn competent. There's a reason that, past the midpoint of the game, I was inviting you along to every darn thing that happened. Well, a couple of reasons, but your 4 Cunning and good skill spread certainly helped.

If you are out, I'll miss having you around! Yslane was a great character, and you're always fun to play with, as well.

[Yslane Tssilla]

I think mechanics wise I went too generalist. I ended up kind of ramshackle, some Shien, some Shadow, and only two skills at 2. I think a simpler or more focused idea would have been better for a first build....but them's the breaks. I find the system interesting enough to fiddle with.

Force powers also feel less useful at 1 FR unless they add to a roll or can be committed. But that is probably the intent.

[Zanebry Varliss]

I actually came away feeling that skills over two were kinda over compensating. I only had two at three mind you, but in the end they didn't feel much more effective then the skills I had at 1 or 2.

I think having those 30 exp in talents would of been nicer...

I do agree with Cole about talent trees though. They can be kinda frustrating.